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remano · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 717

I just noticed an ad for the Siena touting their good blackjack rules, 10X odds for craps and single 0 roulette. I was aware of the first two, but I didn't know they had single 0 roulette. Maybe I just didn't notice it because I'm not a roulette player, but it's worth checking out if you play the wheel.

Qcumber1860 · Joined: 05 Oct 2006 Posts: 53

I played at Sienna last year and enjoyed the casino!! small and frinedly with plenty of low end gaming...I am a roulette fan and knowing they have a single Zero table..I WILL be there(going Sunday apr29-Wed May 2!!!) I have also found Roulette tables ALWAYS in play at At lantis(Double Zero..still fun)

Dave · Joined: 18 Dec 2005 Posts: 212

Hey Remano never gave the roulette wheel much notice at the Siena. I personally love the Siena and their table games. Can't beat their Craps game!
Off the subject but have you been by the future site of Cabllas yet? Sounds like that is going to be Big when all is said and done. I am anxious to come down and check it out.
Thanks for the update!

remano · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 717

spinner · Joined: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 62

If they do have a single zero it would be the only one in Reno. I hope that it is true, it would bring all the wheel players to Siena for sure.

remano · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 717

JD · Joined: 18 Dec 2005 Posts: 956

And I can confirm on at least two occassions, that upstairs in the Cal Neva they drag out a single zero wheel out on busy weekends.

So what wheel was busiest the last two times I saw the auxillary (single zero) wheel in action?

If you guessed the always there, DOUBLE zero wheel you would win! (Actually your odds are twice as likely you would LOSE).

spinner · Joined: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 62

Peppermill also said that people seemed to want to play at the double zero table also. I guess it had something to do with the numbering on the wheel being different and so people did not like that.

I am glad that Siena got a single zero wheel. I will definately go there when I am in Reno. Cal Neva should drag that single zero wheel out and leave it in place. It used to be they had two on the top deck, and they stayed pretty busy.

I would love to see the start of a trend to give better odds to attract people away from Indian Casinos and such, that was a posting on this board about a year ago, and everyone seemed to agree that it made sense.

Thanks for confirming the wheel....

Dave · Joined: 18 Dec 2005 Posts: 212

Goofy question guys and maybe better if it was a poll question or something but how many people when they are gambling really look at the games that are to their advantage? A great example is the blackjack games at the Eldorado and Silver Legacy that don't pay out 3:2 on BJ. Tables still packed and I honestly think the majority doesn't really pay much attention to it. If they did they wouldn't be playing it right? Do you guys pay attention to it?

spinner · Joined: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 62

I guess it is all a matter of how you perceive gambling, how often you go and how much you risk. I sure do know exactly what I am playing before I sit down. If you fly in for a conference, and your budget is $100, and you want a win of at least $1000, chances are you will go home with nothing. If you like to go at least once a month or so, and have a large bankroll, know your games, you can have a good chance of bringing home money, getting full comps from the casino and having a good time. Most people on this board know all about Full Pay Jacks or Better, good rules on blackjack, good odds on craps, single zero roulette, etc. It is their hobby and they know.

That is why Vegas continues to grow, because they do offer better odds generally than Reno on table games. That is not all true, but generally it is.

If casinos figure all their customers as fools, they will be catering to that lot, and they will not stay in business very long. They need good consistent repeat business. Siena seems to be going down a path that will bring in the higher quality players, with bigger bankrolls, that don't need much encouragement to put in 10 and 12 hour days at the tables.

stan_allen · Joined: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 1129

Remember, too, that for most visitors, the gambling is recreational, and therefore, putting in the kind of effort required to have equitable odds is just plain work.
One of the reasons I never took up card counting at Blackjack was because it cut into the plateau of enjoyment I achieve by simply playing basic strategy and imbibing the free drinks.
I'll still not touch a table offering "6:5" Blackjack payoffs, but everyone has their limits, and lack thereof. If you've just arrived from an annoying plane trip, transferred to a hotel, checked in, and only now do you finally have a drink in your hand, and you're ready to play, what the heck: any port in a storm, right? At the very least, you are in an establishment where gambling is sanctioned by the state, more or less monitored by a legal entity of which you are dimly aware, and therefore can be reasonably confident that you're not being outright cheated - and that's good enough for a lot of people.

remano · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 717

lvbear584 · Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 140

evandors · Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 37

Ok devils advocate time

I wonder if the reason people prefer Vegas over Reno has anything to do with Reno being a dump?

I used to love Reno and would go there 2-3 per year. We ALWAYS could get friends to come with us. Now none of my group will even consider Reno. Simply because it is a dump. While Vegas may not be as good of a gamble (I play craps and texas hold-em...Those games seem the same to me). At least it is clean and tourist friendly. Look at how many posts here talk about gang activity, traffic woes, scary walks at night....I have NEVER had that happen on the Vegas Strip

Not to sound disrespectful because I am a frugal (read, cheap) person. But i do not choose my destinations based on who will give me a free sandwich or hotel room.

Seems a bit silly to me to worry about getting a free room when you are gambling a bunch of money. Of course, from most posts here it sounds like no one EVER loses more than about $10.00/weekend. Personally, I would rather pay a whopping $70.00 night (which is what I paid last time I went to Vegas at Treasure Island) then to deal with the whole player card thing.

As it works out we are coming to Reno in a month to call on customers. My wife has a Fitzgeralds card and I could stay free midweek. Unfortunately the place is such a dive I would rather pay and stay somewhere nice.

Reno has carved its niche - the typical customer are people playing nickles and trying to get points toward that free buffett. Most Vegas customers are a bit more affluent I think. I remember 20 years ago staying at the sands because it was $10/night cheaper than other places. Fortunately I have moved beyond that.

alison · Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 1152